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12-08-2019 12:39 PM - edited 12-08-2019 11:20 PM
Hello,
My daughter's HP laptop model 14-ac159nr (Stream?) has been given issues shortly after we bought it. The built-in 24 GB drive in this laptop is too small to even update Windows 10 successfully. It would often hang after login and was extremely slow to the point she could not use it after it never let you login. I gave her my laptop a year ago and finally got around to troubleshooting this one.
After bootup you get the Windows logon prompt, but it never completes the logon after I enter the username and password.. Running the Startup Menu, it shows me:
Hard disk error
Please run the hard disk test under System Diagnostics
Hard disk 1 (3F1)
F2 System Diagnostics
However, when pressing F2, and selecting the Hard Drive Check -> Quick check or Extensive check options, it says:
"No hard drive installed. Please check that the power and data cables are connected properly."
I learned that on this laptop you cannot upgrade the hard drive as it is built-in. Can it be replaced? Any suggestions?
Update: After I posted this message, I was able to login even with the above errors. Ran a check disk and didn't get any errors, so not sure why the System Diagnostics showed errors earlier. I did have very little free space and perhaps that could have been it? I freed up over 1 GB and am updating the BIOS. May need install a new/updated version of Windows 10. Still would like to know what folks have to say about the limited space issue on these laptops in terms of workarounds
Thanks,
Pavitra
12-11-2019 07:07 AM
@pavitraa Welcome to HP Community!
I understand that you are getting 3F1 error message.
As you have mentioned 24 GB drive inbuilt space. The Windows 10 operating will take 16GB. The remaining Space is very less.
I would suggest you add a hard drive for your computer.
Your computer supports 6.35-cm (2.5-in) SATA hard drives in 9.5-mm (.37-in) and 7.0-mm (.28-in) thicknesses Supports the following hard drives:
● 1-TB, 5400-rpm, 9.5-mm
● 750-GB, 5400-rpm, 9.5-mm
● 500-GB, 5400/7200-rpm, 7.0-mm or 9.5-mm
● 320-GB, 7200-rpm, 7.0-mm or 9.5-mm
As you have stated that now you are not getting the 3F1 error and you are updating the BIOS.
I would suggest you perform the hard drive test one more time and check.
1) Shutdown the computer.
2) Turn the computer back on again and repeatedly tap on the ESC until a Startup menu appears.
3) Press F2 once.
4) Go to the Component test.
5) From the list, run the Hard Drive (extensive) test.
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12-22-2019 02:22 PM
Hello Praveen,
Thank you for your help and suggestions. I have both good news and bad news.
The good news is I don't see any hardware issues as per below actions and their results:
Completed the firmware upgrade. After rebooting and running HP PC Hardware Diagnostics UEFI tests:
System Information: Hard drive:
Type ATA
Model BHT WR202H0032G E70290F5
Capacity: 31 GB
...
Hard Drive Quick Test:
Testing Drive: 1
SMART Check: PASSED
Component Check: PASSED
The bad news is after opening the laptop, it is clear there is no standard 2.5" hard disk drive or standard SATA port. It seems to only have an eMMC 32G drive. To make matters worse, I couldn't find a SATA interface either unless I'm just not seeing it. So would like your advise if this particular HP notebook model I have "14-ac159nr" has any capability for HDD upgrade or not. If so, where is the SATA interface and how can it be upgraded?
Thanks in advance.
Pavitra
12-23-2019 12:20 PM
@pavitraa Here's all you need to know about your device: click here to verify,
If you wish to upgrade to a hard drive, check the below image for details:
(As an upgrade/custom enthusiast I personally love the idea of upgrading the device as well, However, HP recommends that you go easy on it as the device is equipped with parts that perform at its optimal performance and also, the upgradeable parts listed in HP articles are purely for your ease, though the decision to upgrade will be at your own discretion)
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01-04-2020 11:01 PM
Hello Riddle_Decipher,
Thank you very much for your detailed reply and documentation for my laptop. It was really very helpful.
I have been able to locate and remove the eMMC drive (4a) on page 24 --- the eMMC drive bracket (4b) although I'm not sure if I need to or even can remove it...seems to be stuck/glued.
It is also good to see on page 24 the same compatible drive information you mentioned. Seems most SSDs will fit the bill. However, as my laptop does not have any SSD drive currently (besides the 32GB eMMC drive), my only option seems to be to remove the eMMC drive and replace it with an SSD. This however, requires me to have this Hard Drive Hardware Kit (part 813510-001 but it looks like from HP Part surfer this is no longer available.
Can you please validate my thoughts and offer any alternatives for this HDD kit?
Thanks,
Pavitra
01-05-2020 10:52 AM
I'd suggest you Contact HP in your region regarding the part availability, they should be able to help.
Have a great day!
Asmita
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