How safe is it to charge an Hp Spectre x360 - 15 with a Type C charger?

[muneeb822]

I have a question. Since, the Df1033dx supports Type C chargers (minimum of 60W), how safe is it to charge with Type C (PD 3.0) apart from the 90W AC Adapter?

[Huffer]

Safe how? The port supports power delivery so the battery can theoretically be charged via usb-C. I would only use it to charge battery when laptop is off however. HP only delivers this model series with either a 90w or `135w barrel type adapter. What do you see as the advantage to using USB-C charging?

[muneeb822]

Safety Concern:

Knowing how safe it is to get the laptop be charged via a Type C is quite better than just getting your expensive machine breaking down, getting damaged or even bursting in flames. When asked about the safety, I was concerned about voltage and using the PD 3.0 apart from AC adapters. AC adapters are quite safe. So are Type C chargers (when bought good ones). Everything can break down one way or another. BUT my concern is the laptop and its Power Delivery port. How safe is it? In terms of all conditions, even if used with a HP Type C charger.

Advantage:

I own multiple devices that power up via Power Delivery and/or Type C chargers. One wire and charger for all the devices helps out in keeping the baggage weight lower and is less tangly and well more uniform/tidy when it comes to being messy having many.

Plus I do own Thunderbolt 3 docks that help in charging the laptop, connecting it to other devices and providing HDMI support to 3 other monitors with only one wire alone.

So I guess, thats quite advantageous to me.

[muneeb822]

One more thing, since the recent BIOS update it supports all Type C chargers. Smaller ones only charging being lazy if the laptop is turned off (no use) while bigger PD chargers that support at least 60W can run the PC smoothly while it charges (no notifications at all).

I own two chargers that give out 60W and 1 gives out 100W via Tupe C. Aukey and Anker!

I like to keep my things tidier and less messy when it comes to cables. Hence, a precaution is to be observed.

My question is technical in this regard.

[Huffer]

You are not going to damage it or catch it on fire with the USB-C. Worst thing that happens is it provides too little power but this would mostly show up under heavy video load like if you tried to play a game it might just suddenly power down if the power is not enough. I would use the 100W USB-C but the 60W should have enough juice to let it run just fine, particularly since you have Intel integrated graphics which are not a huge power draw. Apparently you have already tried it and can confirm that because it runs fine with no error messages. I'd say you are good to go. 

[muneeb822]

Yes, I am apparently aware about the power draws and how it can perform when most of the load is put on the GPU and the processors and well aware of the fact that 60W are not enough. I can practically use the 90W AC adapter in that case while the 60W+ Type C is going to be used with basic work and when only I do web development as that falls in my case. For games, well this machine is good for old games but not for the latest ones, Being a gamer I would not suggest this particular model when it comes to highest results.

Well, since you put it this way that it would work obviously fine without damaging the device (my main concern), I am glad to see that you solved my problem. Thank you.

BUT (don't fall apart bored, hehe)

One last question, since this device offers both AC Power (Pin Cord) and PD 3.0 (Type C) and obviously not forgetting to mention that it would be really silly and unacknowledged if both are used together to charge the machine and making it a disaster, do you think (your thoughts are admired here) when the company made both possibilities for the consumer and when putting up these possibilities to work on way or another, did they put in something useful enough like a converter/transformer/inverter to control the safety and hazards? Why the question? Well, once a battery is installed, it works like a UPS and the laptop has an onboard inverter (unsure of what kind) that helps the laptop to determine if it has to run on AC adapter or the battery so it becomes two different possibilities, right? And when they would put in the PD 3.0 support, it would obviously need the same functionality to work. Now we have 3 different power source options here.
1. AC Adapter (90W)
2. Thunderbolt 3 (capable of the Power Delivery 3.0 @ 100W via a Type C port)
3. The Battery (84.06 Wh Li-Ion)

My concern, will the PD to Battery - Battery to PD be as safe as converting from AC to Battery - Battery to AC?

[Huffer]

You are getting ahead of my limited ability to follow you. Yes please do not use the barrel type adapter and the USB-C at the same time. Not sure what would happen but I am not going to find out on any of my laptops. I believe the same sensor detects the presence or absence of "mains" power from either a USB-C or barrel type. So really it is two power sources...Mains or battery and one switch. As far as power to and from the battery it makes no difference if the system is powered or not from either type of Mains. Works the same. 

[muneeb822]

Hehe yeah this is something I wouldn't find out either as that would definitely create a bigger problem than understanding my last message.

The mains might work the same (so as I thought) and I hope they work the same way. My questions arrised wwen I wasn't satisfied by any answers from HP and I dont believe that I would literally blame or accuse the support. They are humans after all and they wouldn't put in the actual hardware experts on the social/phone/online support. But an answer that would satisfy my concerns would have been quite fruitful as this is something I couldn't find online anywhere. Quite technical to start with 😛

Well thank you for the time and bearing the pain of the last messages.