Hp dc 5800 Upgrades!!!

mdklassen · ‎11-21-2017

> the CPU usage is always 98% after the computer is downgraded back to E2200

Weird.

Disconnect from the Internet.

Reboot.

Programs cannot "call home" to ask for updates, and thus cannot use any significant CPU/disk/network resources.

Use the "Performance" tab of Windows Task Manager to measure the "busy-ness".

At the bottom of this window, click "Resource Monitor", and switch to its "Performance" tab.

You can then click on the column-headings, to sort the rows, and "drill-down" to see which process is using the largest percentage of CPU usage, and/or to see which process is doing the most disk input/output.

Tell us what you see.

foxfaisal · ‎11-21-2017

@mdklassen wrote:

Weird.
Disconnect from the Internet.
Reboot.
Programs cannot "call home" to ask for updates, and thus cannot use any significant CPU/disk/network resources.

If the power supply fan is no longer noisy while doing this, should I replace the E2200 with the Q9650 again? If you think it is not a good idea, then I will go for the E8600.

@mdklassen wrote:
Use the "Performance" tab of Windows Task Manager to measure the "busy-ness".
At the bottom of this window, click "Resource Monitor", and switch to its "Performance" tab.
You can then click on the column-headings, to sort the rows, and "drill-down" to see which process is using the largest percentage of CPU usage, and/or to see which process is doing the most disk input/output.
Tell us what you see.

The dekstop is at my home and I will be away from my home until this weekend. I will post the screenshot of the "Performance" tab by the time I return home this weekend.

Thank you.

foxfaisal · ‎11-25-2017

Below is the CPU usage when the computer is newly on:

Below is the CPU usage when the computer is on for quite some time - the CPU usage still fluctuates to 98% whenever I launch a new program.

@mdklassen wrote:
Use the "Performance" tab of Windows Task Manager to measure the "busy-ness".
At the bottom of this window, click "Resource Monitor", and switch to its "Performance" tab.
You can then click on the column-headings, to sort the rows, and "drill-down" to see which process is using the largest percentage of CPU usage, and/or to see which process is doing the most disk input/output.
Tell us what you see.

Is this what you mean? Please inform me if I screenshot the wrong photo.

Thank you and have a nice day.

mdklassen · ‎11-25-2017

> Is this what you mean? Please inform me if I screenshot the wrong photo.

The picture (below the above text) is fuzzy.

Did you use the "Windows Snipping Tool" to capture the screen image?

The picture shows (in the title-bar) that the CPU is only 14% busy, with 5% being "Byte Fence Anti Malware".

I wonder if that software is responsible during startup of Windows for the high CPU usage?

Maybe, it is virus-scanning every file that Windows opens during start-up ???

foxfaisal · ‎11-25-2017

@mdklassen wrote:
The picture (below the above text) is fuzzy.
Did you use the "Windows Snipping Tool" to capture the screen image?

The picture shows (in the title-bar) that the CPU is only 14% busy, with 5% being "Byte Fence Anti Malware".

I wonder if that software is responsible during startup of Windows for the high CPU usage?
Maybe, it is virus-scanning every file that Windows opens during start-up ???

I use ALT + Print Screen, then paste it in paint brush. Please inform me if theere is any other better way to preseve the image quality.

@mdklassen wrote:

The picture shows (in the title-bar) that the CPU is only 14% busy, with 5% being "Byte Fence Anti Malware".

I wonder if that software is responsible during startup of Windows for the high CPU usage?
Maybe, it is virus-scanning every file that Windows opens during start-up ???

All thistime I installed Symantec Endpoint Protection on this PC, as shown in the photo below. Is Byte Fence Anti Malware and Symantec Endpoint Protection the same thing?

Recently I think the Symantec Endpoint Protection doesn't detect the license because the Live Update button has become blurred, as shown in hte same photo. I think that there might also be a possibility that the Symantec Endpoint Protection is the one that is trying to communicate with the headquarter to verify the license. However, my ASUS laptop also has this blurry Live Update button, but never gets overheat or noisy fan. Anyway I will uninstall and reinstall the Symantec Endpoint Protection on both HP desktop and ASUS laptop until the blurry Live Update button problem disappears.

foxfaisal · ‎11-26-2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FupU6pZrm58

The guy in the video above upgraded old HP dc7800 small form factor. He upgraded the CPU to Intel® Core™2 Quad Q6600 (105 W TDP), installed Nvidia GeForce GT1030, and installed Windows 10. He didn't mention anything about overheating in the video.

Beside this video, you can find the same person uploaded many other videos showing him restoring old school HP small form factor desktops. Some of the desktops are even installed with standard profile graphic cards, so the card has to be installed outside the CPU case and connected to the motherboard and PSU using some kind of extension.

mdklassen · ‎11-26-2017

For a very UNFAVOURABLE review of BYTE FENCE ANTI MALWARE, see:

https://www.pcrisk.com/removal-guides/9191-bytefence-redirect

They call it "PUP" --> Potentially Unwanted Program.

It is a "browser-hijacker" that redirects searches, and the web-browser's "home" page.

I would uninstall that Symantec product, and then uninstall Byte Fence.

This will reactivate the Windows Defender anti-virus that is built-in to Windows 10.

> I use ALT + Print Screen, then paste it in paint brush.

> Please inform me if theere is any other better way to preseve the image quality.

Built-in to Windows 7/8/10 is the "Snipping Tool".

You can draw a rectangle over the area of the screen that you want to capture, and "save as" PNG or JPG formats.

foxfaisal · ‎11-26-2017

@mdklassen wrote:
For a very UNFAVOURABLE review of BYTE FENCE ANTI MALWARE, see:
https://www.pcrisk.com/removal-guides/9191-bytefence-redirect
They call it "PUP" --> Potentially Unwanted Program.

It is a "browser-hijacker" that redirects searches, and the web-browser's "home" page.

I would uninstall that Symantec product, and then uninstall Byte Fence.
This will reactivate the Windows Defender anti-virus that is built-in to Windows 10.

So far, I've uninstalled the Byte Fence Anti Malware and restart the computer - the Symantec Endpoint Protection's Live Update button is immediately enabled after restart. I think the Byte Fence Anti Malware is the culprit that disabled the Live Update button all this time.

I think I would like to retain the Symantec Endpoint Protection. Previously, my Dell workstation was infected by trojan even though I myself updated the Windows Defender in the computer every week. Any USB flash drive that was plugged into the workstation will cause all the files in the USB drive to be moved into a hidden files. Whenever the hidden files in the USB flash drive is opened from an uninfected computer, the computer will be infected as well. Since that point onward, I judge that Windows Defender alone is not enough.

The PSU fan is still throthling at a noisy level, but not as frequent as it was before I removed the Symantec Endpoint Protection. If any of you think that it is stillbeter for me to remove the Symantec Endpoint Protection, I will decide about it later.

Thank you very much for advising me to remove the Byte Fence Anti Malware. I never realise when did I install it. The live update button for the Symantec Endpoint Protection in my ASUS laptop is also blurry, I suspect it might also been infected by the Byte Fence Anti Malware. I will check the ASUS Laptop later.

mdklassen · ‎11-26-2017

It is interesting that this thread has been "hijacked".

The author of this question -- MdLucky8 -- has not visited this thread since March 27, 2017.

So, the discussion on this thread will never be marked as a "solution".

P.S. It is always a "race" between the authors of computer malware and the authors of anti-virus software.

So, no matter what anti-virus software (Symantec, Kaspersky, F-Prot) that is used, it will never catch 100% of the malware.

P.P.S. If you are updating the anti-software "weekly", you should switch to "daily" updates, to get the best protection.

Most anti-virus software will "self-update", daily.

foxfaisal · ‎11-26-2017

Sorry about the hijaking thing. Should I just stop posting in here and create my own thread whenever I have my own problem?

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