Solved: Secondary/extra battery for laptop - HP Support Community

Maah-od · ‎10-26-2018

Hello,

So I have my 1 and a half year old laptopl 14al-105ne pavilion, however according to the specs and sellers I have been told the battery can last up to 8 hours for light using, office work or something like that, however while having battery saver on I can only push to around 5 hours, and I've noticed my battery capacity is 85% when I check my battery through HP Support App,

I noticed it says that it checks primary and secondary battery if equipped, so I was wondering, is there a way I can fix a secondary battery into my laptop to increase its lifetime, I would love to be able to use my laptop for like 8 - 10 hours which would really help me a lot in work, if not, for the future, are there trusted sellers one could buy a new battery with 100% as a replacement?

I really don't want a new laptop, as this is kinda new and I love everything about it, except for the battery life.

Thank you.

erico · ‎10-27-2018

Actually, replacing the legacy spinner electro mechanical hard disk with an SSD tends to reduce power consumption, not increase it. The ultrabook should actually run a bit cooler as well.

Adding a hard disk and memory should actually cause less power useage. That is because there will be less hard disk activity with less memory requests from the hard disk since the memory will be used as cache (program memory storage) instead of the hard disk.

That should give you more useable battery time

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erico · ‎10-27-2018

I suggest that in Windows you ask Windows to provide a battery report.

Open a command prompt( runas admin) or invoke powershell and type in powercfg /battery report.

Hold the Windows key and tap the X key one time. Right-click and select powershell(admin)

Copy the file path and paste it into the command prompt and press enter.

(My file path was C://WINDOWS/system32/battery-report.html)

That will open a browser viewer where you can see the complete report. It is quite extensive. Right click in the browser report and select all. You can paste the entire report into your next response.

The most interesting parts of the report are the battery history, and the comparison between the design capacity and the current full charge capacity(in milli watt hrs.

The report shows all battery activity and history activity since the date I received the notebook from HP and turned it on for the first time.

The article at the webpage at the link should help you make decisions about and understand your battery's current state.

https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/generate-battery-report-windows-10

No. You can't add a battery.

This is what the battery report for my product loan HP Spectre x360-15t-ch000 notebook looks like.

Version:1.0 StartHTML:000000210 EndHTML:000048430 StartFragment:000017577 EndFragment:000048398 StartSelection:000017577 EndSelection:000048398 SourceURL:file:///C:/WINDOWS/system32/battery-report.htmlBattery report

Battery report

COMPUTER NAME	DESKTOP-0RVI7DN
SYSTEM PRODUCT NAME	HP HP Spectre x360 Convertible 15-ch0xx
BIOS	F.21 06/14/2018
OS BUILD	17134.1.amd64fre.rs4_release.180410-1804
PLATFORM ROLE	Mobile
CONNECTED STANDBY	Not supported
REPORT TIME	2018-10-27 10:53:51

Installed batteries

Information about each currently installed battery

	BATTERY 1
NAME	Primary
MANUFACTURER	HP
SERIAL NUMBER	-
CHEMISTRY	LION
DESIGN CAPACITY	78,725 mWh
FULL CHARGE CAPACITY	78,725 mWh
CYCLE COUNT	-

Recent usage

Power states over the last 3 days

START TIME	STATE	SOURCE	CAPACITY REMAINING
2018-10-24 11:45:32	Active	AC	100 %	78,725 mWh
13:43:40	Suspended		100 %	79,464 mWh
17:17:11	Active	AC	100 %	79,464 mWh
18:23:49	Suspended		100 %	79,464 mWh
2018-10-25 11:01:12	Active	AC	100 %	79,464 mWh
11:45:58	Active	Battery	100 %	79,464 mWh
11:46:06	Suspended		100 %	79,464 mWh
11:47:30	Active	Battery	100 %	79,464 mWh
12:40:53	Suspended		86 %	68,006 mWh
14:28:27	Active	AC	100 %	78,725 mWh
14:36:56	Suspended		100 %	78,725 mWh
17:57:02	Active	Battery	100 %	78,725 mWh
18:01:36	Suspended		100 %	78,725 mWh
2018-10-26 09:17:26	Active	Battery	100 %	78,725 mWh
11:28:52	Suspended		56 %	44,352 mWh
2018-10-27 10:53:51	Report generated	Battery	56 %	44,352 mWh

Battery usage

Battery drains over the last 3 days

START TIME	STATE	DURATION	ENERGY DRAINED
2018-10-25 11:45:58	Active	0:00:08	-	-

11:47:30	Active	0:53:22	14 %	11,458 mWh

17:57:02	Active	0:04:34	-	-

2018-10-26 09:17:26	Active	2:11:26	43 %	34,373 mWh

Usage history

History of system usage on AC and battery

	BATTERY DURATION		AC DURATION
PERIOD	ACTIVE	CONNECTED STANDBY		ACTIVE	CONNECTED STANDBY
2018-05-21 - 2018-05-28	5:17:49	-		4:06:24	-
2018-05-28 - 2018-06-04	12:20:00	-		11:38:04	-
2018-06-04 - 2018-06-11	4:05:01	-		2:15:01	-
2018-06-11 - 2018-06-18	19:53:39	-		15:09:54	-
2018-06-18 - 2018-06-25	9:53:26	-		1:37:41	-
2018-06-25 - 2018-07-02	3:43:44	-		4:58:33	-
2018-07-02 - 2018-07-09	35:50:45	-		24:19:53	-
2018-07-09 - 2018-07-18	6:31:13	-		2:13:43	-
2018-07-18 - 2018-07-23	4:57:09	-		7:20:00	-
2018-07-23 - 2018-07-30	6:07:32	-		2:27:57	-
2018-07-30 - 2018-08-06	11:01:39	-		2:39:34	-
2018-08-06 - 2018-08-15	12:30:36	-		3:17:35	-
2018-08-15 - 2018-08-20	1:18:49	-		1:01:18	-
2018-08-20 - 2018-08-27	3:46:37	-		4:13:30	-
2018-08-27 - 2018-09-03	6:59:43	-		1:21:46	-
2018-09-03 - 2018-09-10	12:19:05	-		0:24:24	-
2018-09-10 - 2018-09-17	6:38:17	-		2:41:59	-
2018-09-17 - 2018-09-24	5:01:05	-		2:10:49	-
2018-09-24 - 2018-10-01	13:05:11	-		10:23:25	-
2018-10-01 - 2018-10-08	6:26:18	-		2:23:04	-
2018-10-08 - 2018-10-15	11:41:54	-		2:50:53	-
2018-10-15	0:32:45	-		0:45:42	-
2018-10-16	0:00:10	-		0:34:23	-
2018-10-17	0:00:54	-		3:09:58	-
2018-10-18	0:41:11	-		2:25:59	-
2018-10-19	0:33:03	-		6:21:22	-
2018-10-20	1:26:36	-		2:54:14	-
2018-10-21	0:38:59	-		3:14:21	-
2018-10-22	0:30:50	-		0:00:02	-
2018-10-23	1:35:41	-		-	-
2018-10-24	0:00:27	-		3:26:40	-
2018-10-25	0:54:04	-		0:53:12	-
2018-10-26	1:48:25	-		-	-

Battery capacity history

Charge capacity history of the system's batteries

PERIOD	FULL CHARGE CAPACITY	DESIGN CAPACITY
2018-05-21 - 2018-05-28	83,029 mWh	83,029 mWh
2018-05-28 - 2018-06-04	83,196 mWh	83,196 mWh
2018-06-04 - 2018-06-11	83,530 mWh	83,530 mWh
2018-06-11 - 2018-06-18	83,161 mWh	83,161 mWh
2018-06-18 - 2018-06-25	82,421 mWh	82,421 mWh
2018-06-25 - 2018-07-02	82,421 mWh	82,421 mWh
2018-07-02 - 2018-07-09	82,931 mWh	82,931 mWh
2018-07-09 - 2018-07-18	83,160 mWh	83,160 mWh
2018-07-18 - 2018-07-23	83,232 mWh	83,232 mWh
2018-07-23 - 2018-07-30	83,899 mWh	83,899 mWh
2018-07-30 - 2018-08-06	82,718 mWh	82,718 mWh
2018-08-06 - 2018-08-15	82,938 mWh	82,938 mWh
2018-08-15 - 2018-08-20	82,321 mWh	82,321 mWh
2018-08-20 - 2018-08-27	82,834 mWh	82,834 mWh
2018-08-27 - 2018-09-03	82,557 mWh	82,557 mWh
2018-09-03 - 2018-09-10	81,942 mWh	81,942 mWh
2018-09-10 - 2018-09-17	80,942 mWh	80,942 mWh
2018-09-17 - 2018-09-24	81,309 mWh	81,309 mWh
2018-09-24 - 2018-10-01	80,205 mWh	80,205 mWh
2018-10-01 - 2018-10-08	79,678 mWh	79,678 mWh
2018-10-08 - 2018-10-15	79,877 mWh	79,877 mWh
2018-10-15	79,834 mWh	79,834 mWh
2018-10-16	79,500 mWh	79,500 mWh
2018-10-17	78,725 mWh	78,725 mWh
2018-10-18	78,725 mWh	78,725 mWh
2018-10-19	78,725 mWh	78,725 mWh
2018-10-20	78,725 mWh	78,725 mWh
2018-10-21	78,915 mWh	78,915 mWh
2018-10-22	79,094 mWh	79,094 mWh
2018-10-23	79,094 mWh	79,094 mWh
2018-10-24	79,094 mWh	79,094 mWh
2018-10-25	79,094 mWh	79,094 mWh
2018-10-26	79,094 mWh	79,094 mWh

Battery life estimates

Battery life estimates based on observed drains

	AT FULL CHARGE		AT DESIGN CAPACITY
PERIOD	ACTIVE	CONNECTED STANDBY		ACTIVE	CONNECTED STANDBY
2018-05-21 - 2018-05-28	6:23:51	-		6:23:51	-
2018-05-28 - 2018-06-04	6:18:34	-		6:18:34	-
2018-06-04 - 2018-06-11	7:09:16	-		7:09:16	-
2018-06-11 - 2018-06-18	6:27:33	-		6:27:33	-
2018-06-18 - 2018-06-25	7:01:27	-		7:01:27	-
2018-06-25 - 2018-07-02	6:52:21	-		6:52:21	-
2018-07-02 - 2018-07-09	6:43:30	-		6:43:30	-
2018-07-09 - 2018-07-18	8:25:52	-		8:25:52	-
2018-07-18 - 2018-07-23	7:23:08	-		7:23:08	-
2018-07-23 - 2018-07-30	7:01:22	-		7:01:22	-
2018-07-30 - 2018-08-06	5:39:38	-		5:39:38	-
2018-08-06 - 2018-08-15	5:31:33	-		5:31:33	-
2018-08-15 - 2018-08-20	5:51:05	-		5:51:05	-
2018-08-20 - 2018-08-27	6:59:44	-		6:59:44	-
2018-08-27 - 2018-09-03	7:51:06	-		7:51:06	-
2018-09-03 - 2018-09-10	6:28:45	-		6:28:45	-
2018-09-10 - 2018-09-17	7:36:39	-		7:36:39	-
2018-09-17 - 2018-09-24	4:13:59	-		4:13:59	-
2018-09-24 - 2018-10-01	7:36:32	-		7:36:32	-
2018-10-01 - 2018-10-08	6:08:55	-		6:08:55	-
2018-10-08 - 2018-10-15	5:42:59	-		5:42:59	-
2018-10-15	7:22:01	-		7:22:01	-
2018-10-16	-	-		-	-
2018-10-17	-	-		-	-
2018-10-18	5:24:53	-		5:24:53	-
2018-10-19	4:53:17	-		4:53:17	-
2018-10-20	7:19:11	-		7:19:11	-
2018-10-21	6:56:13	-		6:56:13	-
2018-10-22	5:47:17	-		5:47:17	-
2018-10-23	4:40:30	-		4:40:30	-
2018-10-24	1:36:27	-		1:36:27	-
2018-10-25	6:13:13	-		6:13:13	-
2018-10-26	4:26:40	-		4:26:40	-

Current estimate of battery life based on all observed drains since OS install

Since OS install

6:12:50

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6:12:50

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Now you will no longer be in the dark about your battery and its current and past condition.

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Maah-od · ‎10-27-2018

Thank you for your reply.

Well I'm then considering in getting a new battery replacement in the future, however, I can't find my battery in HP surfpart store or even in amazon, according to my manual my battery is 4 cell 55 wat part number 849908-850.

However viewing my product specs

https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-pavilion-14-al100-notebook-pc/12499206/document/c05359082

My battery is 3 cell 41 w, and the serial number I get in HP diagnostics is 02906, however I can't find the part number for it in any HP store and in amazon, so I'm kinda lost on what should I get or do if you have any tips?

Thank you.

erico · ‎10-27-2018

I noticed the unavailability of a new battery as well.

It probably won't be available until 2019.

If your battery is at 85% of new capacity there isn't truly a reason to replace it yet.

Can you post the report?

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Maah-od · ‎10-27-2018

Sure, on a side note a quick question if you don't mind, I'm thinking about adding 2280 SATA III SSD to my laptop and an extra 8 GB Ram, do you think it will affect that much in battery life as they would require more power? and if yes I don't mind adding only an SSD.

Here is the report:

(sorry i can't seem to be inserting the report, something regarding HTML, so I took screenshots)

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Maah-od · ‎10-27-2018

For some reason my post have been deleted, on a side note, do you think that adding a SATA III 2280 256 ssd and extra 8 gb ram would affect the battery life as they would require more power? I can even skip the 8 gb ram and just add the SSD if they does.

I couldn't seem to add the battery report for a problem with HTML, so here are the pictures, sorry about that:

erico · ‎10-27-2018

Actually, replacing the legacy spinner electro mechanical hard disk with an SSD tends to reduce power consumption, not increase it. The ultrabook should actually run a bit cooler as well.

Adding a hard disk and memory should actually cause less power useage. That is because there will be less hard disk activity with less memory requests from the hard disk since the memory will be used as cache (program memory storage) instead of the hard disk.

That should give you more useable battery time

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