m.2 SSD Upgrade

[pcpunk]

I wonder if anyone can tell me from experience if this m.2 SATA SSD will need a Heatsink?  It's on it's way and I've not opened the laptop yet to look to see if one would even fit.  I assumed because it was just a SATA Drive it would not need cooling, but now I'm thinking it may?

Thanks, pc

[Paul_Tikkanen]

I looked at the parts list and don't see any additional SSD cooling parts listed.

Some models do list those.

The problem with adding a heat sink might be the lack of clearance.

I am currently trying to deal with a similar issue on a Dell Optiplex 7050 MT desktop PC I just got my hands on.

I bought a Crucial P5 500 GB NVMe SSD and had no clue that NVMe drives run rather hot in general.

This drive runs between 50 C and 60 C, and from what I have been reading, that is pretty normal.

I think it would be much better for it to run cooler, and if I had known about the heat issue, I would have bought this drive instead which comes with a built in heat sink.

https://www.amazon.com/Black-SN750-Internal-Gaming-Heatsink/dp/B07MC2Q81D/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywor...

So, now I just ordered this cheap 'strap on' heat sink in hopes it drops the temps even 10 C.

I got the 4 MM height since top clearance is not an issue at all for me.

https://www.amazon.com/icepc-DIY-Graphene-Heatsink-Performance-70x20x2mm/dp/B083FK9FN9/ref=sr_1_64?d...

Live and learn as they say.

The Crucial P5 NVMe drive itself is blazing fast and has an operating temp range of 0 - 70 C, but cooler is better!

[pcpunk]

Paul Tikkanen HP Envy 17-u275cl

Yes Paul, I've been reading up myself about heat in the NVME drives.  Mostly from what I've read it is the Controller that is getting hot.  M.2 NGFF SATA Not so much, so nothing to worry about there.  I think all NVMe need some Heatsink in order to avoid Throttling, just my opinion from what I've read. 

Now, as you might have seen, you were right, my board doesn't support M.2!!!!!  How would I get the info to be sure of this in the future?  I thought I did my best to find out what MB I was running to no avail?

Being a long time HP Lover and fan I'm really put off by some of the junk they are making these days!!!!  Hope you don't take offense to this but…

The other thing I'm not happy about is those stupid rubber strips on the bottom of the newer laptops that serve as feet.  You have to peel them off to take apart the laptop and sometimes they do not go back on properly.  Now you have a situation where the customer is waiting for their computer back, but you may have to order those stupid little strips.  I simply won't suggest to my customers to ever buy an HP product anymore.  This stuff is costing me lots of time, wasted time, not only for customers but for my own projects.  Now I have a brand new m.2 WD SSD that I cannot use!!!!!

O…And I am not getting Notifications for this forum.  I did not even see your last post!  How hard is it to host a forum and get it right?  Don't worry, we'll just always suggest Lenovo and Brother Printers as we've been doing.  HP, you want to step up and make good on wasting my time???

[Paul_Tikkanen]

Hi:

You are correct.  From the sensor readings I get running the free HWINFO utility, the NVMe controller runs hotter than the memory chips.

That cheapo heatsink did an excellent job of dropping the temps some 11 -12 C on average. 

Since last Friday the drive has not gone above 47C which is well within tolerance and no lockups, throttling whatsoever.

Now, onto your questions...

Regarding the forum notifications...that happens to me a lot...I get no e-mail notifications that someone replied but usually the little bell icon on the top of the page has a number on it that indicates activity.

I don't work for or represent HP, nor do I own any HP stock, so I'm not offended. 

Everyone has a right to their own opinions.

I don't like these rubber foot strips either.  The screws are underneath them and the strips either break or stretch and you can't get them back on right.   And if you can even buy replacements they cost a ton of money.

I haven't owned a HP printer in years, not since my trusty HP photosmart 1115 printer.

I have used Canon's ever since.

As far as determining if a specific model PC has a M.2 slot, there is no 100% way I know of. 

Reading the manual is not 100% accurate, as we have found out.

I think the most reliable way of determining if a PC has a M.2 slot and what type of drive it supports would be to run the free utility that I zipped up and attached below, and click on the motherboard report.

At the bottom of the motherboard report, there is a system slots report to expand and it will list the slots, PCI generation and whether the slot is filled or not.

Otherwise, most of the info I have collected is from other forum member's reports of what they have found after opening up the PC.

No doubt you will be able to use the M.2 drive you have on another project.

There are so many folks that want to install M.2 drives in their desktop and notebook PC's, I doubt it will be collecting dust in your shop.

Paul

[pcpunk]

Good to hear about your NVMe drive cooling!  

I checked again, it does say that m.2 SSD is supported for my model and all other models actually.  In the parts section it does talk about different MB's and some support HDD and some HDD AND SSD, but the first section "Product Description" tells what is supported, AND IT IS WRONG! 

I'll run the hardware info software.  I did run Speccy but the outcome was all but a little vague if I remember.   There were a couple of PCI-E x1 available, and I thought one of those may have been an m.2 sata slot.  Now I wonder if it needed to be PCI-E x2 to be what I was looking for?

I don't have a shop and really shouldn't have bought this ssd, but do have over 1100 customers that I influence directly.  Unfortunately I will be holding on to this ssd for way too long when I could have just got an 2.5" model instead.   This pic shows all three across are checked, which means all laptops in this range are supported, pg-10.  If this were a one time thing I can understand, but this is ongoing misinformation that is costing me time and money.  I think HP should send me a motherboard that supports m.2 now haha.  Or just send me a nice business class laptop please haha.