HP Stream 11-y002na Windows 7 installation help

[RowlandWinn]

Hi

I am trying to install a uefi boot version of Win7 onto this stream, that came with W10

mainly due to the W10 policy of forcing you to update and constantly downloading updates into a emmc drive of only 32gb, for the past 6-9 months we have simply done a fresh install eachtime of the latest W10

Now 2 programs we use no longer work due to ms certification and also servers being blocked? (these are genuine diagnostic programs from Jaguar LandRover and Snap-On)

It will install but then BSOD on boot, doing a cmd prompt/safe boot it sticks on the disk.sys file load

or/and has anyone been able to enable usb3 boot? it only boots with usb2 but our other HP machines all have usb3 in boot options - im guessing it is not done to prevent you using a usb3.1 fast flash like we have and dual booting from it...

[Lil_Boy_Blue]

Hi

Not overly helpful I know, but USB booting for W7 is dodgy...

This may be totally wrong...

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/21129/USB-3-0-Driver-Intel-USB-3-0-eXtensible-Host-Control...

[Lil_Boy_Blue]

Hi

I may be trying to teach granny to suck eggs, but I don't mind a bit of egg on face.

Also I would suggest checking Legacy/Secure boot, if that is an option.

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/askcore/2011/05/31/installing-windows-7-on-uefi-based-computer/

[RowlandWinn]

Hi

thanks for the input

re usb3 on boot this is not the driver that your linking to that is only after boot and i was referring to W10 booting with that request,

the bios actually needs to allow usb3 boot, on many other machines it is present as an option on this one it is not shown

I suspect it is deliberate to prevent you from expanding the 32gb emmc drive with the super fast samsung fit plus's that we use

they actually clock faster read write than the emmc drive when up and running

yes secure boot disabled or enabled still same issue

[Lil_Boy_Blue]

Hi

well I'm only keeping the seat warm 'il a proper helper arrives.

This a Dell option, not a HP.

https://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/125921-how-to-add-drivers-manually-to-usb-drive-to-install-w...

ELSE

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2529073/binary-files-in-some-usb-drivers-are-not-updated-af...

Obviously I just EXPAND (copy) the .ISO directly onto the HDD, in it's own 6 GB partition and run setup from there.

X:\>dir
Volume in drive X is Recovery
Directory of X:\

29/10/2018 23:48 128 autorun.inf
29/10/2018 23:48 408,074 bootmgr
29/10/2018 23:48 1,452,856 bootmgr.efi
20/03/2017 04:15 <DIR> efi
09/08/2018 15:55 <DIR> HP_Drvrs
29/10/2018 23:48 82,440 setup.exe
13/08/2017 12:42 <DIR> sources
22/11/2018 10:25 <DIR> support
4 File(s) 1,943,498 bytes
4 Dir(s) 1,487,892,480 bytes free

Use a W10 usb stick with space enough for the expanded/copied iso.

But then I am somewhat uncouth, I use Linux.

[RowlandWinn]

Hi thanks again,

Yes I also use linux, mint is my preferred distro

the usb issue as i said is nothing to do with drivers it is a bios issue and only a bios update would fix that, it needs flashing with a compatible bios that has the usb3 boot option HP have removed it from the bios of this machine.

The win7 issue is the disk.sys file, it is a little odd as from what I have seen on another post someone else had the same problem and no resolution was posted. His interpretation was that W7 did not have the driver for the emmc drive however I have seem W7 on emmc drives install without issue
Im using a jan2019 W7 distro from MS

have tried it uefi gpt and mbr either way its the same point that it fails at

Im not educated enough to try to strip out the driver from a w10 disk and insert it into a W7,

well actually I could do the insert bit if i had the file i need

[Paul_Tikkanen]

Hi, @RowlandWinn 

See if any of the info at the link below is of help to you...

https://msfn.org/board/topic/175652-desperate-to-installuse-windows-7-help/

[RowlandWinn]

Hi Paul

thanks for the link

for anyone coming to this post in the future, the upshot is that W7 can not see the emmc drive, and I can confirm after installing W7 and then rebooting to the usb installation disk the emmc drive is not present

This is why on the safe boot it was going as far as disk.sys

A W8.1 emmc drive exists that someone tried to slipstream into a W7 install but it failed too.

The two options seem to be

find someone to write a W7 driver fro the emmc drive - costly

try to dual boot to a usb drive, which I have done with W10 on both boots the only issue with this is at boot there is no usb 3 option so the drive has to be in the usb2 port, it actually does not see it in either of the 2 usb3 ports, nor does it see a card in the sd card reader.

So you end up with a slow boot,

I have not tried a W7 install in dual boot - this is my next step and I will update this accordingly

[Paul_Tikkanen]

You're very welcome.

Try the gigabyte tool to insert the USB 3 drivers into your W7 installation media.

Perhaps W7 will boot from a USB3 port after you do this.

http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList/Utility/mb_utility_windowsimagetool.zip

[RowlandWinn]

I will add that in but i do not think it is a solution as

I have dual booted W10, the same distro one on the emmc and one on a fast usb3.1 drive in the usb2 slot

The bios F9 does not see either of the usb3 drives, nor the sd drive but does see a usb2 inserted drive

ie if i put the drive into the usb3 slots it will not DBoot but if i put it in the usb2 only drive it DB's fine.

This is why I asked earlier if there was any bios flashes that had usb3 enabled

The HP I fixed yesterday, with your help, when you go into bios has the option to enable or disable usb3 boot

I guess this is the flash needed and it is also referred to in the link above that you supplied from memory it had f03, the guy had tried f04 and f14(not sure on the last one need to look up the post again)