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you might be thinking that this is a problem only with HP Pavillion laptops because it worked flalessly on your wife's acer laptop as well as your school's systems. But the problem is not just limited to HP laptops. Many Sony Vaio and ASUS user too are facing the exact same to same problem, however I see fewer comments in their forums as compared to HP. But atleast, not limited to HP. Hopefully, we might be getting a fix along with the October update.
Coming to clean install thing, well I am an extremely impatient guy. Did all type of installations, from Windows update to iso update, to clean install on a drive to delete all disk and create new partition and install, to installing the same with an iso downloaded using media creation tool. According to me, there is some difference between the normal isos we download from torrents(if anyone tried), or the isos we created manually by decrypting and compiling the esd file to form a iso file and the iso downloaded by the media creation tool. What difference I noted was the size difference of around 600 MB. Media creation tool created an iso of 3.11 GB wheras the iso I created manually was of 3.72 GB. After installing from the iso created using media creation tool by a clean format, I installed major drivers manually offline. Everything worked fine, until I connected to the internet. It downloaded something or what, but everything worked fine even after installing Intel HD driver and Nvidia driver too. It was around 2 hours, all was well. But as I connected to the internet, even after switching off the radio, the shut down behavior was random as usual, it used to do before. But with my manual iso, I faced problem as soon as I installed Intel HD driver.
This behavior of Windows 10 on my system shows that, Windows 10 RTM build 10240 is the most unstable OS, that has ever existed in the history of OSes, including the BETA versions of all OS. Build 10166 was fine(Insider Preview version). But not this one. Just the performance of my apps in Windows 10 is flawless doesn't mean that Windows 10 is a superhit. Had this issue happened only with HP, MS could have announced HP laptops as incompatible with Windows 10, but there are some other users as well.
I think, if MS got any self-respect, they should pull off their faulty OS, take some time, let the bosses of the project team not put unwanted pressure on the young project developers, and should release it anytime later, may be after October or next year, which of course MS is not going to do, as it has become a big tech giant, that can even handle losses in the form of piracy and as a conclusion MS never cares for its customers, thereby copying the Apple Inc. (again OS x--> Windows 10, then releasing future updates just like Apple, and most of those updates are for spying purposes).:smileymad:
Thats so frustrating of MS. Thats it, I am going back to Win 8.1 with start8. (Just worried, what, if I happen to buy a new gaming laptop in the future, as that time those laptops would not have support for Windows 7/8.1 as well, and forced to use Windows 10 along with its forced updates) 
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@Sibu16 wrote:@re4med
you might be thinking that this is a problem only with HP Pavillion laptops because it worked flalessly on your wife's acer laptop as well as your school's systems. But the problem is not just limited to HP laptops. Many Sony Vaio and ASUS user too are facing the exact same to same problem, however I see fewer comments in their forums as compared to HP. But atleast, not limited to HP. Hopefully, we might be getting a fix along with the October update.
Coming to clean install thing, well I am an extremely impatient guy. Did all type of installations, from Windows update to iso update, to clean install on a drive to delete all disk and create new partition and install, to installing the same with an iso downloaded using media creation tool. According to me, there is some difference between the normal isos we download from torrents(if anyone tried), or the isos we created manually by decrypting and compiling the esd file to form a iso file and the iso downloaded by the media creation tool. What difference I noted was the size difference of around 600 MB. Media creation tool created an iso of 3.11 GB wheras the iso I created manually was of 3.72 GB. After installing from the iso created using media creation tool by a clean format, I installed major drivers manually offline. Everything worked fine, until I connected to the internet. It downloaded something or what, but everything worked fine even after installing Intel HD driver and Nvidia driver too. It was around 2 hours, all was well. But as I connected to the internet, even after switching off the radio, the shut down behavior was random as usual, it used to do before. But with my manual iso, I faced problem as soon as I installed Intel HD driver.
This behavior of Windows 10 on my system shows that, Windows 10 RTM build 10240 is the most unstable OS, that has ever existed in the history of OSes, including the BETA versions of all OS. Build 10166 was fine(Insider Preview version). But not this one. Just the performance of my apps in Windows 10 is flawless doesn't mean that Windows 10 is a superhit. Had this issue happened only with HP, MS could have announced HP laptops as incompatible with Windows 10, but there are some other users as well.
I think, if MS got any self-respect, they should pull off their faulty OS, take some time, let the bosses of the project team not put unwanted pressure on the young project developers, and should release it anytime later, may be after October or next year, which of course MS is not going to do, as it has become a big tech giant, that can even handle losses in the form of piracy and as a conclusion MS never cares for its customers, thereby copying the Apple Inc. (again OS x--> Windows 10, then releasing future updates just like Apple, and most of those updates are for spying purposes).:smileymad:
Thats so frustrating of MS. Thats it, I am going back to Win 8.1 with start8. (Just worried, what, if I happen to buy a new gaming laptop in the future, as that time those laptops would not have support for Windows 7/8.1 as well, and forced to use Windows 10 along with its forced updates)
"you might be thinking that this is a problem only with HP Pavillion laptops because it worked flawlessly on your wife's acer laptop as well as your school's systems. But the problem is not just limited to HP laptops. Many Sony Vaio and ASUS user too are facing the exact same to same problem, however I see fewer comments in their forums as compared to HP. But atleast, not limited to HP. Hopefully, we might be getting a fix along with the October update."
Right. I am aware of the other platforms that are suffering along with HP's. I try to stay as up-to-date with thech as I can given my role here at this small graduate school in SC. One of my responsibilities is to manage, not only the 18 workstations we have, but the entire distance education program (at least from the tech side of things). Typically I get requests from students who ask me to troubleshoot and repair their laptops. Normally they don't bother to pay me (I never ask as I am glad to help but it does rob me of my valuable time as I am also a student at the same school...but I digress...)... Yes. Many platforms, as you have indicated, are struggling.
"oming to clean install thing, well I am an extremely impatient guy. Did all type of installations, from Windows update to iso update, to clean install on a drive to delete all disk and create new partition and install, to installing the same with an iso downloaded using media creation tool. According to me, there is some difference between the normal isos we download from torrents(if anyone tried), or the isos we created manually by decrypting and compiling the esd file to form a iso file and the iso downloaded by the media creation tool. What difference I noted was the size difference of around 600 MB. Media creation tool created an iso of 3.11 GB wheras the iso I created manually was of 3.72 GB. After installing from the iso created using media creation tool by a clean format, I installed major drivers manually offline. Everything worked fine, until I connected to the internet. It downloaded something or what, but everything worked fine even after installing Intel HD driver and Nvidia driver too. It was around 2 hours, all was well. But as I connected to the internet, even after switching off the radio, the shut down behavior was random as usual, it used to do before. But with my manual iso, I faced problem as soon as I installed Intel HD driver."
Again, I agree with this assessment though my findings did not have as much disparity in the file sizes as yours. I wish I could read a white paper on the process by which MS builds the ISO and what, exactly, is happening in the background in a Windows Update upgrade vs. an ISO build update. I would suspect the file sizes to be different BECAUSE the ISO probably takes into consideration a larger variety of potential items, whereas the Windows Update version MAY BE streamlined to your system alone (similar to what happens on regaular updates - scans, sees what is missing, gives you what you need sort of thing) but I really cannot be sure. If my opinion is correct, then that would explain the difference in file size. Keep in mind that the Windows Update version of the upgrade downloads the essential elements FIRST before giving you the notification. In three of my Windows Update upgrades, the size of the download was roughly 2.7 GB. However, I noticed the ISO version to be about 3.1 GB.
"This behavior of Windows 10 on my system shows that, Windows 10 RTM build 10240 is the most unstable OS, that has ever existed in the history of OSes, including the BETA versions of all OS. Build 10166 was fine(Insider Preview version). But not this one. Just the performance of my apps in Windows 10 is flawless doesn't mean that Windows 10 is a superhit. Had this issue happened only with HP, MS could have announced HP laptops as incompatible with Windows 10, but there are some other users as well."
Again. Agreed. I have read some reports that support your conclusions. 10240 is not the best build, it appears.
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As i have noticed that there is no shut down problem, immediately upon a fresh boot/restart. So I thought, lets play with those having Delayed Startup programs. And the thing is to try to disable those, which were not present just after a fresh install of Windows 10, because yesterday, after a fresh install, I installed Intel HD driver at the 1st, 2nd the Nvidia driver 3rd the synaptics driver and then I installed none, but allowed my laptop to run for 1 hour, but surprisingly shut down was normal. Next I connected to internet, it silently installed Intel Management Interface, Intel rapid Storage, my WD HDD driver, and bluetooth driver.
As Intel rapid storage was one among them. I tried to play with Intel Rapid storage, because many people in various forums have claimed their shutdown problems to get it solved by updating their Intel Rapid storage driver. But as for HP, there is no such update, (for me, its HP Envy Touchsmart 15 k102tx), I thought lets disable it. Because if I uninstall/disable it in Device manager, this buggy Windows 10, forcefully download it and installs it silently in the background
Well, I was going to play with Intel management Interface driver next, but looks like no one had ever pointed "Intel Management Interface" anywhere in various forums regarding shutdown problems.
Just give it a try, and report for issue faced if any, after running your laptop for atleast 1.5 hours.
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