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08-10-2018 07:07 AM
Super - thanks for that ... so I'm told that it doesn't support NVMe PCIe 4-ch! That is what the official HP response was to my (insistant) question on what the m.2 socket is designed to do - only SATA I was told.
Obviously HP support isn't very well informed.
SATA can NOT do what you are seeing - that can only be done using PCIe 4-ch.
So I guess I'll order an EVO 970 and see what I see... I'll skip the PCIe extension card hoping that maybe it will recognize it and I'll be able to get it copied and bottable from within the m.2 socket- although I suspect I'll need to do the same thing you did.
thanks big time for the assistance.
08-10-2018 07:18 AM
Just to be clear --
If you buy the Samsung NVMe and mount it on motherboard in M.2 slot, the Samsung Data Migration software will clone your 1 TB OEM hard drive to the NVMe (even will resize partition). I had to go into "Disk Management" in Windows and make the NVMe drive "online"and set BIOS to boot from NVMe.
You do not need the PCI adapter card at all. I currently have a graphics card in my PCI 16 slot.
08-11-2018 06:28 AM
Mark, I tried to look you up on QRZ as I wanted to ask a few more questions not directly related to this computer (and thus this forum) ... or maybe they are ...
So after you move everything to the SSD what happens with the remaining HDD? Is it still there, seen, and usable for say backups? I have 2 computers here that I installed SSD's on previously - neither allowed me to keep the old HDD (without wiping it which I didn't want to do) ...
Gary K9RX (you can write to me at the arrl net address)
08-12-2018 05:22 AM
I did email you yesterday morning, but I'm not sure you saw it.
08-16-2018 09:56 AM
ARGH! Ok ... so after NOT having a screw to mount the new SSD m.2 card. HP in their lack of wisdom doesn't populate the 2 standoffs - as if the average American is going to have a M1.6 (1.8?) screw. I found one by taking apart an old WD HDD. This is ridiculous guys!
So - I ran Samsung Migration Tool. That worked, it seems. I restarted the computer - changed the order of the 2 UEFI drives such that the Samsung 970 is "on top", saved this - but nothing changes! It still comes up using the HDD. I can open FILE MANAGER and nope- not there. I then installed Samsung Magician - it sees the EVO but says its empty! No Volume found there! Run Data Migration again and it clearly shows the Samsung as (now) being the same size as the HDD, 50 something GB. Do i have to for some reason re-run the Data Migration tool?!
NOW what? I can't find any other BIOS setting to change ... note in File Manager the 😧 drive is the recovery partition of the C: drive (the standard 1G HD that came with the system) and there is no E drive shown (which would be the next drive letter for the SSD).
HELP?!
08-16-2018 10:12 AM
You're almost there.
Two things -
First, In BIOS, the 2nd choice is "Storage" and under "Storage, the 3rd choice is "Boot Order". Enter this and change your new drive to boot drive.
Second, you have to make the new drive "Online" in Windows "Disk Management" (not "File Explorer")
No, you do not need to ever run Data Migration software again.
08-16-2018 10:46 AM
thanks - as mentioned I did the first one - it is selected (it is above the 1T HD) ... but i didn't know about Disk Manager! I'll give that a try. I assume I find Disk Manager under Control Panel? Also nowhere did I see anything about having to install the Samsung Driver. When I had issues i went ahead and installed it - to no avail. No change (it is now however listed under Device Manager, Storage Devices, as a Samsung NVMe driver)
08-16-2018 10:55 AM
Hmm - I must have misinterpreted what you said - you need to go into the BIOS option called "Boot Order". Please reexamine. The order of the drives isn't important, as Windows will assign the boot drive as c:
"disk managment" can be accessed in many different ways. One way is to simply type "disk management in the search box on the Windows start key. Or google "how to get into disk management" for pics.
08-16-2018 11:13 AM
ok ... maybe making progress. So I did Disk Management and put the SSD "online". It is now the F drive. I don't think the computer is booting from the SSD even though the order in BIOS shows it above the HDD. It appears just as slow booting up (and shutting down). I did run Samsung Magician on it and WHOOHOO it IS running at PCIe 4-ch speeds!!
SO how do I change it to be the C drive and make the current C drive the E drive or F drive? If you select the drive and select "change drive letter" C is not an option! I'm seriously leary of first changing C to say H and then F to C for fear that will really screw things up ...
Also there is that 😧 drive which is a partition on the C drive ... I believe that is uneffected by any changes but mention it in case.
thanks big time for the help.
Gary