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02-11-2019 05:28 AM - edited 02-11-2019 06:49 AM
Can anyone describe what type of M.2 SSD compatible with HP 590-P0086 desktop, and the procedure to upgrade.?
I assume, Optane drive is not a physical HDD, right? if so, if I disable it, all data will be transfered to pHysical HDD which is 1TB (I assume). So, should I get a bigger M.2 SSD since my HDD is 1TB ? at the moment occupied space of the HDD is around 100 GB.
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02-14-2019 07:33 AM - edited 02-14-2019 07:42 AM
Hi.
Macrium Reflect (disk imaging and cloning software) is free.
You can create a USB HP Recovery drive now before you make any changes to the hardware configuration. The unknown is: if this USB operating system recovery drive is only configured to work with Optane memory and a platter HDD. This HP USB recovery drive should work correctly with your PC's current configuration (one Optane module and one platter HDD).
The restoration process using the HP Recovery USB drive on a new NVME SSD (you have removed the Optane module and changed the BIOS settings to AHCI) may fail or the new SSD may not boot.
I can't say for sure because I don't use Optane and have never had to reconfigure a PC from Optane to non Optane enabled.
HP factory recovery images are usually created for specific hardware configurations. The HP factory image process may abort when a significant hardware change is made. I would classify removing Optane, installing a NVME SSD, and changing BIOS Storage boot settings as a significant hardware/microcode change.
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02-12-2019 03:03 PM
@Sbasnagala
Thank you for posting on the HP Support Community.
I see you need help in upgrading the SSD, on HP Pavilion 590-P0086. Don't worry as I have a few suggestions which should help you.
After reading your post, I did go through the Product specifications of your product and found that you have One M.2 socket 3, 2280 type for SSD.
To get the answer to this question, The Octane Memory" is what Intel calls their Optane powered caching SSDs. The Optane Memory Module itself is a PCIe Gen3x2 single-sided 2280 SSD.
Hope this helps! Keep me posted for further assistance.
Please click “Accept as Solution” if you feel my post solved your issue, it will help others find the solution.
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02-12-2019 08:23 PM
But my question is, if I disable Optane drive and replace it with m.2 ssd . What size of ssd do I need? I read somewhere, capacity of the ssd has to be larger than C drive. My C drive is 1TB, but occupied space is only 200 MB. which means should I go for 1TB ssd. This doesn't add up. Please explain.
02-12-2019 09:08 PM - edited 02-13-2019 06:26 AM
Greetings,
Welcome back to the forum.
I am not a HP employee.
Intel Optane is a cache drive. It is a physical SSD installed in a 2280 M.2 slot on the motherboard.
This 2280 M.2 slot on your motherboard will accept a NVME drive such as a Samsung 970 SSD which can be used as a fast, bootable, operating system drive. You can install: a 256 GB, a 512 GB or a 1 TB PCIe 3.0x4 NVME SSD.
The process to disable Optane, install a NVME drive, and copy the operating system from the existing HDD to the new NVME drive is not a simple process.
Intel Optane memory specifications, installation, uninstallation guides can be reviewed at this site (Link).
You will have to copy/clone the current HDD operating system to the new NVME SSD after you uninstall the Intel Optane UI (IRST).
I use Macrium Reflect free (Link) to copy/clone operating systems. This procedure cannot be done until you correctly remove Optane from your operating system. You have to verify you can boot to Windows after removing Optane.
Check out this site (Link) on using Macrium Reflect to clone a stable operating system installation. A working and stable operating system contained on the platter HDD (sans Optane) is the key to success. You may have to change BIOS "Storage" settings to AHCI before you clone the operating system from the HDD to the new SSD.
I don't use Optane. I have not had to do this process. Good luck. Hope you can do what you want to get done.
Cache drives don't fit with my system configuration philosophy.
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02-13-2019 07:07 PM
02-14-2019 07:33 AM - edited 02-14-2019 07:42 AM
Hi.
Macrium Reflect (disk imaging and cloning software) is free.
You can create a USB HP Recovery drive now before you make any changes to the hardware configuration. The unknown is: if this USB operating system recovery drive is only configured to work with Optane memory and a platter HDD. This HP USB recovery drive should work correctly with your PC's current configuration (one Optane module and one platter HDD).
The restoration process using the HP Recovery USB drive on a new NVME SSD (you have removed the Optane module and changed the BIOS settings to AHCI) may fail or the new SSD may not boot.
I can't say for sure because I don't use Optane and have never had to reconfigure a PC from Optane to non Optane enabled.
HP factory recovery images are usually created for specific hardware configurations. The HP factory image process may abort when a significant hardware change is made. I would classify removing Optane, installing a NVME SSD, and changing BIOS Storage boot settings as a significant hardware/microcode change.
Regards