Finding iron oxide content of toner

[ellyyogini]

I have had great success with my HP laser printer and using Delphi Decal Paper for photo fusing on both glass and ceramic. Al ot of this is explained in my new book, Diigital Image Transfer: Creating Art With Your Photography. Good luck!!

[ElaineBradley]

Sounds great, I might buy that book.  You do mean fusing images onto glass and ceramic in a kiln - right??

[KCAZ]

I'm doing a Glass project and need to have a Laser printer that uses Iron Oxide in the Toner.

I have an HP310 ~ HP Photosmart Premium printer.

Is this a laser printer? does it use Iron oxide in toner?

KC

[Bob_Headrick]

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@KCAZ wrote:

I'm doing a Glass project and need to have a Laser printer that uses Iron Oxide in the Toner.

I have an HP310 ~ HP Photosmart Premium printer.

Is this a laser printer? does it use Iron oxide in toner?

KC

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Sorry, the HP Photosmart printers are all ink based, not laser printers and they do not use toner.

[KCAZ]

thanks...but its a bummer since I need Iron Oxide ...and I have ink cartridges.

Maybe I'll go to a printer for my images...

[JackofArts]

Be careful when using a commercial printer.  If thier copier gets too hot the material fuses to the drum.  When this happened with Lazertran Reg transfer paper my printer continued to attempt to get the best image and took out  2 lazer copiers.  I did get a usable transfer and a request not to return!

[toby3319]

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[toby3319]

I specialize in toners and micr toners and have created most micr cartridges that are non-HP and Lexmark on the market today. I custom build high content iron oxide toner cartridge for customer who use it for heat transfer printing. In general you need a laser printer for your use, but most non- HP printer do not use iron oxide in the blend. Even HP is now using charged polymers in their toner blend and new printer may not have the iron content in the cartridge. So a good test would be to use a magnet and see if it sticks to the belly of the cartridge where the toner is located. Using a magnet method on cartridge on Brother, Samsung, Lexmark will show they do not have any iron oxide.  The smaller printer like P1006 will not work for heat transfer because in general the smaller cartridge does not deliver high volume of toner that is needed for your use. Larger the printer, the larger the toner cartridge used in the printer and the darker the prints will be. It all has to do with the roller in the toner cartridge that delivers the toner. HP 1200 is large enough to deliver fair amount on toner for heat transfer printing but printer like the HP2100 is better, HP4000 even better.  But I would buy original OEM cartridge because if it is rebuilt, the density will not be as dark printing, because the roller which delivers toner will be worn.  Most suppliers who rebuilt cartridges do not replace worn rollers to deliver toner as well as a new OEM cartridge.  There are printers in the HP 1200 class that has more iron oxide due to how it must work.  In general, fax machine/copier class in the HP1200 class has more iron oxide because of how the “Toner Low” sensor works.  These are Canon copiers that use, FX cartridges or S35, X25 toner cartridges.  If you use original cartridges in these machines, you will get 60 percent iron content or higher.  In general Original HP cartridge will deliver about 40 to 50 percent iron content. We custom build cartridge to deliver more by adding more iron oxide to the blend. Now some customers are experimenting with ceramic blends. Some customers have asked for aluminum, zinc and other metals in the toner to see what happens. There are few printers out there that have higher iron content but are large and more expensive.

The fact that a cartridge is MICR does not mean it has significantly higher iron oxide content. Because I know how MICR blends are made, I can assure you that magnetic properties are more important, not iron content. So a MICR cartridge with much lower iron oxide content than HP still well work well for check printing purpose. Example of this is Lexmark.  Regular Lexmark cartridges do not has any iron oxide in it.  But Lexmark micr cartridges have iron oxide.  But the volume of iron oxide in micr Lexmark is lower than regular HP cartridge.  Another example is Brother toner cartridges.  Brother does not add iron oxide to the toner.  But we add micr iron oxide to the blend to sell around to world.  We are the only manufacturer of micr toner for newest models of Brother in the world.  But the iron content in Brother micr is very low. 

I also make MICR cartridge for inkjet printers, but again the iron oxide in the inkjet is extremely small. The iron oxide used in inkjet micr are nano particles. Nano particles are extremely small iron oxide powder, thousand times smaller than used in HP cartridges.  Most likely it will burn off.

I hope this helps.

[PotterSusan]

You suggest the HP4000 to be one of the better ones.   I have an HP 4100 printer, is this model similar?  From what I can see, only the HP 61x toner cartridge is available to me.  Does this have a high enough iron content to do the decal printing for ceramics?

[toby3319]

The HP 4100 is identical cartridge to HP 4000 except HP has installed a computer counter chip so it is more difficaut to refill.  So you can even use 41000 cartridge on 4000 printer, but can not use 4000 cartridge on 4100. Yes, HP4100 does have high iron content. But I would use a new original HP cartridge, or cartridge that is rebuilt with a new what is call mag roller to deliver good amount of toner for printing.  You can significantly increase the density/amount of toner delivered by also using a darker printing drum. Drum/imaging unit is the shinny green roller on the cartridge that prints the letters onto the paper.  There are poor quality drums and great quality drum that a rebuilder can choose to use.  Some even reuse old HP drums which is worn and do not prints well to reduce cost.  But many people who just print letters can not see the difference.  A good quality check is to print out a solid dark page and compare.  You can call a toner cartridge rebuilding store and ask for darker printing drum and install it on your cartriddge yourself.  Only need to remove 2 screws and old drum will come out easily. Just remember to smear small amount of toner on the new drum to get it turning.  Or ask for drum powder when you order a new drum.  Drum powder is made with teflon in the blend.  If you don't the wiper blade in the cartridge will flip and the cartridge will freeze up.  When I build HP4100 for heat transfer printing, I use high quality mag roller, high quality drum and use a toner with higher iron content which increases delivery about 20 percent more.  Also remember that even if it prints dark on some printers, that does not mean it will work for heat transfer because black prints contain mostly plastic which will burn off in the process and only iron in the blend will survive after heating.  Hope I answered your question.