HP Pavillion dv1000 CPU upgrade

[Paul_Tikkanen]

Hi:

That was an interesting discussion.

Forget everything I wrote about AHCI.

I just looked at the service manual and the only drives supported are IDE which means that AHCI is not supported since the PC needs a SATA AHCI controller in order to work.

Maintenance and Service Guide (hp.com)

So, there will be no BIOS setting to enable AHCI and Windows XP will not require any storage controller drivers to install.

I was assuming with an Intel 945 chipset the drive was SATA like my ancient HP nc6400 notebook which has the same chipset as the dv1000 but since the drive is SATA has AHCI mode.

[mirkrat]

I see. Well, you surprised me now, but it will be easier nonetheless. OK, but at least I learned something extra, which can be used somewhere else for sure. 
I'll find out through the HWinfo if it's really the PM945, I remember reading the SL8YB from the IC before.
So do I have to look for an SSD with only an IDE controller (if there will be such a thing at all)?

And what about the dv6700, wouldn't the AHCI driver be usable there?
And I actually have one more model - the dv4000, but it's not working. Maybe I'll start the wreck sometime and maybe I'll just need this. Now, of course, I don't know what chipset is there, but I already had it disassembled, but I immediately put it back together, because I couldn't find anything by looking. Maybe I'll try again sometime.

Edit:

The discussion is starting to get really interesting and I'm starting to enjoy it quite a bit

Now I've figured it out maybe.
My dv1000 does not have this IDE connector, the other one did, which I used as a source of spare parts (it was faulty, maybe the graphics chip):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/354602930071?_Skw=ssd+ide&itmmet=01j98xq2v56cnzjk30kx %2BKZ9MFHVJKNIOLELX2CQ6ZPTLSJYHQC5B3%2BXAZ IIABJY4W777EYZG%2BB2AJ8K9BVPPYOVYGLSTBFW4ZSXE%2FQQEQMYSIK4UCFX2GPSM5PBHJ% BLFGMMNBS%7ctkp% 3ABFBM1q3cncpk

Mine dv1000 has SATA, normally this one connector, apparently there were more models, I'll look at the label again, what is the other two... it's actually:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/145997348153?_skw=ssd+sata+I&itmmeta=01J98Y3DRECNDMK9APE7DAQ5A0&hash=item21... T6ZgC5qZFfpbS4vUMspDo1z%2BZp5Oz1wQa3ssh90Uxtk0rqwj3YpYTmePOA9Zmr1QwNjiZZ39iEVkJTnhbaspCUhuKnjslAD8v9Z87Uge4v%2BKo9BSIYxmosxBipJKjB0CVvWA%2B5GlZY9G3oqwYirdVPLAsdbemib3m 3juSszjORZaOtVdzmP97PJ2EdC8l9c6%2Br6w%2FIi73fCIjvjATLQ4Hn4xY0cNJNZ%2F8xqLC52EotYeWw882kacdvG6%2Fhjbe5Q% 2BFwqS97uTHTAS5hq8MEBC%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6zcjZ7KZA&var=445000844105

So in the end I think I will use the procedure for the AHCI driver. So if IDE and SATA can be clearly distinguished according to the connector for HDD/SSD.

[Paul_Tikkanen]

Yes, if you have the drive in the second link you posted, that is a SATA one.  The first one with all of those pins is IDE.

Those were the first generation dv1000 models with the older Intel 910 chipset and did not have SATA support.

The dv6700 was designed to run Vista and the SATA controller is defaulted to AHCI.

If you were to install XP on there (not recommended because it is hard to find drivers for some devices such as the audio), then you would have to install the AHCI controller drivers as there is no IDE setting in the BIOS.

And if you install 8 GB of memory, you need to run a 64-bit OS, or only 4 GB of memory will be seen and used by Windows 32 bit.

The difference between the GM945 and PM945 chipsets is:

GM945 onboard Intel graphics.  PM945 = Nvidia graphics.

[mirkrat]

I am attaching a photo of the production label from the bottom of the laptop. It is model dv1665ea.
There is a SATA connector for the HDD, but unlike the dv6700, it has male pins.
Now I made a screen using HWinfo, with 2x 2 GB of RAM (it is the Dual-Channel Interleaved, 2+1 GB - it was Dual-Channel Asymmetric). Is it possible that the RAM only runs at a frequency of 332.7 (333 ) MHz? I see that there is bios F.09, it is apparently very old, but you wrote that there is probably no newer one, right?
I am sending images with screenshots from HWinfo to see if something could be improved even further.

The Win XP Professional - SP3 is just a test, the HDD is from another laptop, now I will reinstall. The laptop is assembled and working now.
Thank you

dv1000_Assembled - functional.jpg :

dv1000_HDD_connector_SATA.jpg

dv1000_As a source of spare parts.jpg :


HW_info_dv1000 (1).jpg :
 
 

HW_info_dv1000 (2).jpg :

[mirkrat]

I'm still thinking about whether I should install Win XP - the 64-bit version, but apparently it wasn't released in Czech. I live in the Czech Republic. Is the 64-bit version significantly better than the 32-bit version, does it make sense to search?
Oh and I have a problem, during the installation it tells me that no hard drives were found on the computer, I can't continue with the installation, so I don't know what to do now. After all, I have the HDD there and the current system boots normally.

Edit: 

I found a solution on google.

So I first had to go into the BIOS and change the "SATA Native Mode" item from Enabled to Disabled. This is said to disable some advanced functions of the controller, which, however, does not prevent the installation of Windows and the normal use of the PC. It is related to the SATA AHCI driver, which I would have to install via the external floppy drive, as you wrote earlier.

[Paul_Tikkanen]

Hi:

When you look at any memory report and the memory is in dual channel mode, you have to multiply the reported speed by two.

The report indicates the memory is running in dual channel mode so, 333.5 MHz x 2 + 667 MHz (the dual channel speed).

That connector should be able to be removed from the drive exposing the SATA connection that you are familiar with.

I wouldn't try installing a 64 bit OS on there of any version because there is no 64-bit audio driver available.

[mirkrat]

I don't understand it now. In that screen from HW info, you can see 332,7 = 2x 166.3 MHz

I finally figured it out how to install Win XP with AHCI driver.
The procedure in the .pdf file for the slipstream of AHCI drivers means that I will actually only create the installation disc and then only perform a clean installation with this disc. That means I can use nLite to create this install disk on any other computer, I assume?
I did it wrong, I disabled the AHCI option in the bios and did a clean install of Win XP from my original installation disc and then I did the slipstream and I didn't create the ISO because I thought what would I need it for. Then I gave the option to enable AHCI in the bios and suddenly blue death when starting the system.
Now I understand that I will have to install again with the CD created this way.
So now I leave the AHCI enabled multiplicity in the Bios and the install should be allowed right?
So I'm in for a re-install right?

But what if I decide to install newer Windows than XP, do I also do a similar slipstream of AHCI drivers using that nLite or some similar program? Or will a clean install from the downloaded installation media suffice?

[Paul_Tikkanen]

Yes, I don't get that either.

Your notebook's memory is running at 667 MHz in ducal channel mode, so I don't know what the = 2 x 166.7 means.

Mine says the same thing on DDR4-2400 MHz which is running in dual channel mode--1197 = 12 x 99.7.

I wouldn't worry about it.  Take the 333.5 number and multiply it by two - 667 MHz.

Yes, you have to make a copy of the XP installation disk, slipstream the AHCI drivers into the disk, and build back the ISO file into a bootable CD.

Yes, you have to use another PC to do all of this.

I found it much easier to load the drivers with a USB FDD, although I was also able to successfully make a bootable XP CD with all of the SATA AHCI drivers too.

You change the BIOS to AHCI mode and then install XP using the slipstreamed CD you created with nLite and you're good to go.

[mirkrat]

Hi,

Sure, that won't be a problem. Thank you.
I'll get into it tomorrow as soon as I free up a higher capacity HDD to use.
I just ran into a problem today. I wanted to copy the data from this HDD to a WD Elements 5TB external drive on this dv1000 with the existing Win XP OS. Unfortunately, this 5TB drive did not connect to my laptop, it is detected in Device Manager and it says that the drivers are up to date and that the drive is working properly.
The disk doesn't show up in Disk Management, and it doesn't appear at all in My Computer, that's why I'm solving this. I had no choice of another PC. It is said that Win XP does not detect devices with a capacity of 2 TB or more or that are formatted as some kind of GPT.
It is said that this problem will be solved by a GPT loader, for example, but I just need a free utility, I don't want to pay for anything. I don't even know if this is the problem.

[Paul_Tikkanen]

You're very welcome.

Yes, I think the 5 TB drive is too large to be recogized by WXP and it does have to be in GPT.

But...I don't think XP supports GPT so you will need to find another option.

Isn't the XP CD only a few hundred megabytes?

You can probably do the whole thing with a 32 GB USB flash drive.