HP Pavillion dv1000 CPU upgrade

[mirkrat]

Sure, I'll give it a go and let you know how it goes. If the laptop will run with this configuration.
I'll definitely ask you for help with the dv6000 later, but for now I'll stick with this.

Thank you again.

[mirkrat]

Good Morning,

The T7600 processor arrived yesterday so I finally installed it to move forward. The laptop started normally after normal assembly (HDD, RAM, keyboard), (Win XP was installed on the HDD, but the HDD was from another laptop, so it asked for drivers, which is clear).
Could you please send me a link to the drivers for that motherboard DAOCT6MB6F1 rev: F, HannStar J MV-4 94V-0 0609. - chipset SL8YB and especially for sound, the sound didn't due to the driver.

Maybe I could send you HW info screen later, if laptop works.
And the bios update for 2x2 GB RAM support didn't come out therefore?

[Paul_Tikkanen]

Good morning:

I don't believe that the notebook will support 2 x 2 GB of memory but if you have some 2 GB DDR2 sticks available give them a try.

Worst case scenario is the notebook doesn't boot up.

Drivers:  HP has drivers for W2K, XP and Vista.

HP Pavilion dv1000 Notebook PC series Software and Driver Downloads | HP® Support

[mirkrat]

Yes, I should have them, I'll see if they fit.

Thank you for the link for the drivers.

But what if I want to install for example Win 7 or Win 10? Is it even possible to run it there? This option is not included with those controllers.
Maybe I'll decide to use an SSD drive here and try it as an experiment. Win 11 probably won't be possible, I suppose, but with T7600 maybe who knows. I will experiment.

25 / 5 000

Výsledky překladu

Výsledek překladu

I'll see if they fit

[Paul_Tikkanen]

You're very welcome.

You can run W7 on that platform, but I believe that it has to be 32 bit because I don't believe that there is a 64 bit driver for the audio chip.

SSD: Might or might not work.

Here's why...another thing that will surprise you like the 965 chipset speed...the SATA controller on the Mobile 945 chipset is only SATA I (1.5) GB/S), and most SSD's are only backward compatible to SATA II.

You would have to probably find an old SSD that would support the SATA I speed.

Again, if you have a SSD you can experiment with, you have nothing to lose by popping it in and seeing if it will work.

There is no W11 32 bit OS available.

You can try W10 64 bit but I don't think there is a 64 bit driver made for the audio.

If you were able to run W11 on your dv6700 or dv1000 the newest version you can run will be W11 23H2 as I may have mentioned before.

Microsoft has upped the processor requirements and now the oldest Intel processors that can run W11 24H2 are PC's with the Intel 1st gen core processors.

[mirkrat]

Thanks for the support, I'll try my best. I have already put the laptop back together, now I'll just check whether everything works as it did before assembly, because I had to take it apart twice, I always either forgot something or the board was not properly seated in the cover. Even the second dv1000 model, from which I took the top cover of the tub, had a different hole at the connector for connecting the display, it stood out when I assembled it and I had to carefully cut out a piece of plastic there, otherwise I would have to take it off again.
now I will install a new Win XP on the HDD for now. I will have both versions when it works with SSD.
I have some SSD drives, I'll check what generation it is and try it.
I also saw an ad on Ebay.com where a dv1000 with an SSD drive was for sale, so I will try to contact the seller to find out what kind of drive it is and how it works.

[Paul_Tikkanen]

You're very welcome.

If there is an AHCI option in the BIOS to enable, you should install Windows in AHCI mode so the drive runs faster.

The downside is you have to install the SATA controller drivers for the 945 chipset either by using a USB floppy disk drive or slipstreaming the drivers using nLite.

I can give you the steps to do it either way if you don't know how to do it.

You seem to be very knowledgeable about PC's so perhaps you already know about this.

[mirkrat]

I will find out if there is an option to enable AHCI in the BIOS.
I assume that you mean the SSD disk, which should then run faster.
Do you really mean an old floppy disk?, I have no idea what slipstreaming and nLite are.
My computer knowledge has always been at level 0, but since I started working with you, I have at least gained some knowledge. But I still don't know much, it's not my area. But at least I'm trying to build something.
I would then write to you sometime later for the process of how to install the SATA controller driver, when I would have done it.

By the way, after inserting 2x 2 GB of RAM, the memory is initialized as 3 GB. So I use 2 + 1 GB here and It was operational.
Thank you.

[Paul_Tikkanen]

Yes, that seems right. 

3 GB would be recognized with 2 x 2 GB or 2 + 1 GB.

But run the free utility that I zipped up and attached below and see if the 3 GB of memory runs in the higher performing dual channel mode with 2 x 2 GB of memory installed.

2 GB + 1 GB is only going to run in single channel mode.

A SSD will run more efficiently in AHCI mode, but a mechanical hard drive will also benefit greatly by running in AHCI mode as this illustration shows.

Native Command Queuing - Wikipedia

I have attached an instruction sheet for how to slipstream the SATA AHCI drivers using nLite.

I have also zipped up and attached the XP SATA AHCI drivers you need to slipstream.

Yes, you can also use a USB floppy disk drive that reads the smaller 1.44 MB floppy disks, not the larger 5" ones.

You copy the attached files to a floppy disk without the folder. Just the files inside the folder.

The screenshots near the bottom of the link below show how to do that.

Installing Windows XP with a 3rd party SATA/RAID driver - Software - Tech Explained - HEXUS.net

You used the up/down arrow keys to scroll to and select the driver.

The AHCI driver you select for your dv1000 would be the Intel(R) ICH7M/MDH SATA AHCI Controller

You must leave the USB FDD connected during the entire Windows installation process.

I found that out the hard way.

After I loaded the driver, I figured I didn't need to leave the USB FDD connected anymore, and I found out wrong.

Later in the installation process Windows was looking for the USB FDD again to access the drivers and the installation failed. so, I had to start all over again.

Not a big deal, but I just wanted to let you know not to unplug the FDD if you use that method to install the AHCI driver.

[mirkrat]

Okay, thank you very much.
So 2GB + 2GB should be faster when it turns out that it is therefore running in dual channel mode.
Thank you for the instructions for installing SATA AHCI, I hope I can understand it and I hope I can do it.

So first I normally install Win XP and then the nLite is the SW that I download from the link in point 3 in the pdf manual.
But first I'll probably install the other drivers (graphics, chipset, wifi, sound) and then the AHCI one?

But will AHCI (Native Command Queuing) really benefit computer performance?
It is also written in that wikipedia article that:
A 2004 test with the first-generation NCQ drive (Seagate 7200.7 NCQ) found that while NCQ increased IOMeter performance, desktop application performance decreased.[6] One review in 2010 found improvements on the order of 9% (on average) with NCQ enabled in a series of Windows multitasking tests.
It means that later it had to be better. But will this also apply to my dv1000?

I contacted the seller on Ebay who offered the dv1000 with SSD, I am forwarding the conversation with his reply. I'm not at all the wiser as to what it actually means.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126530869543

(Me):

Hello, please, could I ask what type of SSD drive you had installed in this laptop? I'm going for a similar upgrade, but it says only SATA I will be compatible. Most SSD's are only backward compatible to SATA II.Or did you have something newer?And windows was XP there? Or have you tried newer ones as well? I'm concerned with how fast it runs. Although I see that you probably didn't change the processor and rims for a better one.

(Seller):

This machine is IDE only and has no data supportI went for an IDE to SD card adaptor, you can also do IDE to MSATA but you won’t can’t any better performance if you go for a good SD card, the throughput of the IDE interface is very limited to go for the one that gives you better price/performanceI only do factory image for my collections, Windows XP was what it shipped with.I hope this answered your questions.

Edit: Yeah yeah, I think I understand it already: HDD: 64GB SSD Mod - expandable. So it's just some expansion, but the system is on a normal HDD. So it has nothing to do with my case at all.